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JACKSONVILLE – Let’s get to it …
JACKSONVILLE – Big one for the Jags in the U.K. Good to be home.
Let’s get to it …
LONDON – Game-day in the U.K. … It’s coming sometime and maybe …
O, last season I suggested Blake Bortles have three-to-five designated run plays. You shot it down saying he needs to be a pocket passer. We have used a second-round pick and signed a high-dollar free agent running back and how are we ranked? BB still averages a few yards more per carry than any of our running backs. Now, I read draft polls saying we will go after Big Leonard from LSU. Won’t you admit Blake needs a few more carries per game? Give their D more to think about and adjust their D?
John: I’m very rarely going to bang the table for quarterbacks to get more called running plays and I’m certainly not going to bang anything in this case. Running plays expose quarterbacks to injury risk and great quarterbacks usually can win from the pocket. And while the running yardage from designed quarterback runs are nice, they usually don’t accomplish a major objective of the run in the modern NFL, which is to establish the threat of the run and therefore help the offense overall. Bortles may average a few more yards per carry than Chris Ivory/T.J. Yeldon, but defenses aren’t going to commit extra defenders to stopping him, so the aftereffect of those runs is relatively minimal. I think Bortles probably would benefit from a few more designed rollouts and he probably would benefit from running with decisiveness when the pocket collapses, but no … I’m not a fan of the idea of game plans that plan for him to be a third running back.
Just win, baby. Win.
John: OK.
From Chris Simms: “I am confident in saying the Blake Bortles experiment is over. They are going to have to start reevaluating what they want to do at quarterback … We’re three games into his third year and we’re still seeing the same issues from Blake Bortles that we saw at the beginning of his NFL career… He does not make routine NFL throws. He is very inaccurate throwing the ball. He’s got one of the longest motions throwing the football. He’s also one of the worst three-step passing quarterbacks in all the game.” Perhaps a little harsh, but a fairly accurate assessment. What say you?
John: That’s indeed a harsh way of saying many things we discussed about Bortles throughout the offseason. These of course were many of the same issues that existed last season when he looked very much at times like a player who was ascending to the point of being a very good NFL quarterback. Bortles has some weaknesses. They have overshadowed his strengths thus far this season. Are they going to continue to do that and define his career? It’s too early to know that no matter what Chris Simms might believe. And I’m going to hold off on researching Simms’ ascension to the high altar of quarterback evaluation. I’m still sort of tired from the trip and don’t want to get into it.
Hey, John. I went to high school with Prince Amukamara and I was wondering if you think Prince’s absence hurt the secondary in the past weeks?
John: Without question.
If the Colts score on their first possession they will win the game. Bortles will panic, try too hard to catch up and the Jags will fail to score enough. If the Jags hold the Colts on the first possession the Jags have a chance. The Jags cannot win a shootout, due to panic and poor play calling. What do you think?
John: The Jaguars have struggled enough early in games that this indeed is a reasonable conclusion. It’s a bit extreme and it’s probably not all-inclusive. It also needn’t be the case moving forward, but through three games? Yes, this is a reasonable conclusion.
What do you think is more probable: Jaguars score on the first offensive series or Bortles throws an interception on his first pass of the game? I believe Vegas would have the odds on the latter.
John: Bortles has struggled enough early in games that this indeed is a reasonable conclusion. It’s a bit extreme and it’s probably not all-inclusive. It also needn’t be the case moving forward, but through three games? Yes, this is a reasonable conclusion.
Wow. I was just looking at Wikipedia, and found that they have the all-time winning percentages for all 32 NFL teams. We rank 27th. I think that is the reason we have so many disgruntled fans.
John: The Jaguars have struggled enough over the last four or five seasons that this indeed is a reasonable conclusion. It’s a bit extreme and it’s probably not all-inclusive. It also needn’t be the case moving forward, but right now? Yes, this is a reasonable conclusion.
Many years ago, Mark Brunell was having a real tough preseason. Jimmy Smith was out. Jimmy came back and suddenly Brunell looked fantastic. A local sports writer was asked why and he said Mark got his security blanket back. I think the fact that Blake sees the Allens double covered, causes him some mental issues – i.e., he lost his security blanket. He needs to get past that.
John: There’s probably an element of this. Robinson was double covered quite a bit down the middle third of the field against Green Bay in Week 1. Though offensive coordinator Greg Olson said that hasn’t been as much the case the past two weeks, it stands to reason teams will defend the Jaguars’ best receiver at least a bit differently until Bortles and Robinson figure a way to beat it consistently.
Maybe I’m an ignorant optimist but I think firing Gus if we lose this week would be a horrible mistake. This roster is incredibly talented but they’re making stupid mistakes – some coachable, some not coachable. At least give the guy the year unless every game is a 40-point blowout. Do you still think Gus is the guy? I still do. DTWD
John: I’m on record saying I honestly don’t know if Bradley is the guy. I say that because he hasn’t won – and until a coach wins, you can’t know if he’s the guy. He didn’t have the talent to win early in his Jaguars career and he hasn’t had enough talent long enough to prove for certain that he’s not the guy. Also, let’s keep the Jaguars’ talent in perspective. Yes, they have more talent than they did in 2013, 2014 and 2015. Yes, they have talent that they should be better than 0-3. But I would not say they yet have veteran, experienced talent where I would necessarily consider it a horrendous coaching job if they miss the postseason. I thought realistically this team could get to eight-to-nine wins, but I also thought the offense would perform better early. Can the Jaguars win enough the rest of the season where we get a better idea if Bradley’s the guy? Stay tuned.
Can you explain two things about Bortles? Why do many of his passes seem to waffle in the air compared to pretty much every other quarterback in the NFL? Secondly, why does he have problems shuffling around in the pocket like most of the other good quarterbacks in the NFL? Does he have problems feeling the pressure?
John: One, I don’t know. Two, apparently.
I’ll say this for some optimism for our squad. Chemistry seems to be gaining on the offensive line (as well as getting healthy) and pass protection seems better, but we have to figure out something in the running game. But this defense with all its new players seems to have the potential to be special. Prince only played one game and the coverage looked pretty good. To think we have Aaron Colvin coming back after the bye makes me excited because somebody will be left out as a result of the true competition with our cornerbacks. I believe Davon House will be left out because he cost the most and he’s our weakest link, to be frank. Colvin, Prince and Jalen Ramsey should be our starting three. Give Prince House’s deal after this year lol. DTWD
John: I’m not sure who you are, but at some point C.C. from Duval’s going to know you hacked his account. #toopositivetoreallybecc #dtwd
You and I both know Indy’s secondary is as deep as a kiddy pool. This game has season, career, regime, draft and financial implications to it. Blake needs to play adequately. Stop forcing the ball to A-Rob, do his progressions and throw to the open man – and get a W or the talk will become legitimate. God help us all if that happens. What a long plane ride home. Good luck.
John: It’s a big game. No doubt about that.
O man, has there been a bigger game in the last 10 years than the one this Sunday? The Jags lose and the coach is likely fired and things are chaotic for the remainder of the year. With a win, we are right in the division approaching the weaker part of our schedule with a quickly improving defense. Go Jags. I don’t want to wait another year.
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What’s up with all this hate towards Bortles? People need to understand there is no offensive line, which means there is no run game. No one respects the play-action pass. There are only two options – run or pass. When you take one option away you know what’s coming.
John: There’s certainly some truth to this – and it’s very, very possible that all of the analysis, thought, commentary and pontificating on Blake Bortles’ issues on this site and elsewhere has been a bit premature. Just because he has struggled to start this season does not ensure those struggles will continue. If anything has defined him in two-plus seasons it has been the ability to accurately self-assess and successfully improve when he sees areas that need improvement. There also indeed are many factors that have played into the Jaguars’ disappointing 0-3 start – with a struggling offensive line chief among them. Are people overanalyzing Bortles? Are some people over-hating on Bortles? Perhaps. But however much we’re overanalyzing, Bortles hasn’t played well enough in the first three games of the season. His level of play may not justify hate, but it does merit concern.
The glass is half full. Jags could be 2-1. They should be 2-1. They are only two games out of first place in the South, with every team still to play. The season is not over, but they absolutely have to win Sunday. If not, three games back in Week Four … even if they go on a run it will almost be impossible to overcome. What say you?
John: I say the Jaguars need to win Sunday for many, many reasons.
Hi John, I believe the lack of effective run-blocking (we’re on pace to gain 880 yards this season) is a major reason for Blake’s struggles. I think opponents know they can successfully take away our run game and force Blake to become one-dimensional. The defense is doing their job, but they will get gassed late in games without a run game. The team has just got to figure it out.
John: There’s no question the troubles of the run offense have hurt Bortles. Fans roll their eyes and get angry when they hear Jaguars coaches and players talk about needing to run, but this offense must run to be effective. Bortles thus far hasn’t shown himself to be a quick-timing, precision, accurate intermediate short passer – at least not enough of one to win consistently solely by passing at all costs and eschewing the run. It’s also difficult to have consistent success trying to hit enough big pass plays early to spread out the defense. The hope for the Jaguars’ offense on this front lies deep within the first two games of the season. There were times against Green Bay in Week 1 and early against San Diego in Week 2 – when the offensive line was healthy – that the run game showed signs of moving effectively. The Jaguars get Chris Ivory back this week. Remember early in the preseason? When Ivory and T.J. Yeldon were both healthy running behind an almost-healthy line? There were times the run game looked really good. A couple of preseason games isn’t much on which to pin the hopes of an entire run offense. Right now, it’s what the Jaguars have.
Time to end the Bortles experiment. He is not the future. Dave made a huge mistake and needs to admit it.
John: It absolutely is not time to bench Bortles. I don’t know that he is the future. I do know he has struggled to start this season but I also know he showed enough last season to at least show signs that he might be the future. Whatever the end result, he must play this season to find out for sure.
Zone, let’s talk line. Who is struggling? Who needs to improve? Is the right side struggling as bad as they say?
John: When an offensive line struggles it’s rarely one player because there’s so much teamwork involved. A lack of continuity hasn’t helped. Kelvin Beachum started one preseason game and two regular-season games at left tackle, and the absence of Beachum and center Brandon Linder against Baltimore last Sunday contributed to the struggles. Right tackle Jermey Parnell indeed appeared to have some rough plays on Sunday, but I wouldn’t say he’s remotely alone on that front.
Jalen Ramsey is covering like a corner and tackling like a safety. Stop me when I get something wrong. Jalen Ramsey is the best cornerback on the Jaguars. Jalen Ramsey is the best cornerback in the division. Jalen Ramsey will be one of the five best cornerbacks in the league by December. Jalen Ramsey will soon be a perennial pro bowler. Jalen Ramsey is already a better tackler than most corners in the league. As far as his talk, maybe we should look at some of the things Michael Jordan used to say to his opponents. He can say those things if he keeps shutting them down.
John: I haven’t stopped you yet.
I agree with Bob from Blackshear that Blake has lost confidence, but not in himself. I think he has lost confidence in Greg Olson. After some of these failed bubble screens and attempts to “establish the run,” he throws his hands up like, “What’d you expect would happen?”
John: I don’t doubt that there instances when frustration causes Bortles to look irritated-ly and frustrated-ly to the sideline when plays don’t work. Are failed bubble screens frustrating? Sure. But I’d be surprised if Bortles deep down is very frustrated with attempts to establish the run. It’s very difficult for any team to pass effectively without at least the legitimate threat of the run, and it’s particularly hard for Bortles because of how good he is with play action.
Wins against Indy and Chicago give the Jags the confidence and momentum needed overcome their next two beatable opponents (Oakland and Tennessee) and get to 4-3, in theory. In one sentence (other than referencing the need for better quarterback play), what is the most instrumental key to that happening? Thanks O-hog!
John: More offensive production, which sort of ties into that one sentence that I’m not allowed to write.
So perhaps a question. Did everyone overestimate the talent on this team or is it, for whatever reason, simply not coming together?
John: Overall the talent on the roster is starting to show up, especially on defense. It was reasonable to expect that side of the ball to take a few weeks to jell considering the new faces and young players. The surprising thing to many people is that the offense has started so slowly. There was an assumption that the Jaguars would take a step forward offensively this season. There was an assumption that step would happen sort of automatically. There was an assumption that some of the flaws we saw last year would go magically away with a year experience. To date, those assumptions were incorrect.
Describing the Colts’ season thus far you said they “avoided a disastrous season” in reference to saving themselves from a 0-3 start. Does that mean you describe the Jaguars thus far as “disastrous”?
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