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PITTSBURGH, Pa. – Let’s get to it …
EAST RUTHERFORD, N.J. – Game-day O-Zone.
Let’s get to it …
Big O, is Jalen Ramsey looking likely to be the best draft pick in franchise history? For sure he’s the best pick of the David Caldwell era. Serious question: Is the team permitted to negotiate a new contract while Ramsey is still under his rookie contract, or is that forbidden? Seems like this team should do anything possible to ensure that young man wears a Jaguars uniform for life.
John: The Jaguars drafted Tony Boselli with the No. 2 overall selection in the 1995 NFL Draft. He was as good as any left tackle in what I consider the golden era of left tackle. He was a Hall of Fame talent who played at a high level from his first start until injuries prevented him from doing so. I also believe he will be in the Hall of Fame soon. I say this not to over-feed Boselli’s already well-fed ego, but to make the point that it will be hard to designate anyone as the “best draft pick in franchise history” because it will be hard to be a “better” draft pick than Boselli. And let’s not forget running back Fred Taylor. When players perform at a Hall-of-Fame level, it’s hard to put players above them. But Ramsey absolutely has the early look of being on that level. It’s early, and he has played only 19 NFL games, but everything about him says “special.” As for his next contract, teams may begin negotiating second contracts with drafted rookies following their third NFL seasons. So, in Ramsey’s case the Jaguars could begin doing so following the 2018 season.
Is Jalen Ramsey better than any other cornerback we’ve had? Aaron Beasley and Rashean Mathis were good but not to the extent of being a shutdown corner.
John: Mathis at times was a shut-down corner, but there’s a difference between a shut-down corner and what Ramsey appears on his way to becoming. He has the look of a player capable of being the best at his position for a long period of time. That’s rare stuff.
How bad is Blake Bortles’ wrist injury? He keeps popping up on the injury report. Do they limit him in practice? Do you think this is an injury that has a good chance of getting worse throughout the season?
John: Bortles on the occasions he has discussed his wrist injury has said it’s fine. Not much more is known about the injury beyond that. The Jaguars this season aren’t discussing or revealing much about injuries beyond the official NFL practice report – as is their right under league rules, by the way.
How about one fer the fans who are going to show up and support their team at the home game next week? Our team is finally looking like a contender for the first time in a decade and we need to take advantage of our home field. We need to make the players look forward to playing at the ‘Bank. After we whoop up on the Jets, will anyone be with me and give our Jags a standing ovation next week?
John: One thing I don’t worry about is EverBank Field fans supporting this team. They have supported this team through a lot of losing for a lot of seasons. If the Jaguars return to the ‘Bank 4-1, I look forward to seeing the reception and feeling the energy. So, one fer the fans? Yeah, no doubt.
Hi Big O, Lennie is going to be one of the greatest to don a Jags jersey. He just looks so natural carrying the ball – and his vision and strength is phenomenal. I also love how the Jaguars are using him: running simple plays he can get the most out of. There is no trickery; it is just him running over guys with his downhill, physical running style. He and Jalen will be the faces of the franchise, I loved the pick.
John: So, I guess one for … Lennie?
Having seen the Jags in two of the three games this season (yes, London was an incredible experience), I don’t hear much about Myles Jack and his emergence. His movement to the ball with his incredible speed is becoming impressive. Whether in base D with Poz, or their 4-6 type coverage, he is making plays. I am wondering just how much him sitting a lot last season helped him. I think it is a difference maker — it helped a knee injury fully heal, he got tutoring from Poz, and he got to observe (something fans discount). We got another potential superstar on our team. What do you think?
John: I don’t know how much better Jack is now than he would have been had he played more last season. He did start 10 games last season, and the major difference this season is he is playing in the nickel in addition to his strong-side duties. The nickel role plays to his strengths as it allows him to chase and use his speed and instincts. But is Jack a potential star? Yes, there is a reason he was considered a potential Top 5 selection in the 2016 NFL Draft; he has elite speed and athleticism. He is starting to show it.
It seems that Myles Jack’s confidence and production has grown by leaps and bounds over last year. What are your thoughts on the play of Myles Jack?
John: Jack’s play has improved dramatically. That happens a lot for NFL players between their first season in the league and the second. The game slows for them, they become used to their surrounding and things that seemed overwhelming or confusing at times become less so.
!!FULL CONSISTENCY!!!
John: OK.
O-man – hate to break the news to you, but there isn’t a Sbarro’s in Jersey City. Instead, check our Razza for the best pizza in the country. It’s a 10-minute walk from the hotel, or you can have it delivered via Ubereats. Trust me, you’ll come back just for the pizza. I am not affiliated with them in any way, either.
John: Ten minutes from the hotel is a hike for me, and I’m too cheap to pay for delivery. I’m actually according to friends, former friends and family too cheap to pay for much of anything given a choice in the matter. But I confirmed the lack of Sbarro’s. What kind of town are you guys running here?
Hey John, with the way this team is playing – and believe me, I know it’s still early – do you foresee a game getting flexed? This team is playing well, and deserves a prime-time game. I think that it would be the Rams game if I had to pick, because both teams are outperforming what people thought. Thanks a lot, I appreciate you.
John: The odds are against the Jaguars getting flexed to prime time this season – primarily because the odds are against any team getting flexed to prime time. First, games don’t get flexed to Thursday or Monday prime-time slots – only Sunday. And even with Sunday games, it doesn’t happen that often – and it’s usually toward the end of the season. It almost certainly wouldn’t happen for Jaguars-Rams in two weeks because it’s too early in the season – and frankly, even if the Jaguars were 4-1 going into that game they likely wouldn’t be a big enough national story yet to entice television networks to want the game in prime time. Prime-time games aren’t about teams “deserving” them. They’re about games that will draw nationally. If the Jaguars continue to play well this season, I have little doubt they will be on prime-time television next season, but not likely before that. At least not until the postseason.
I can’t disagree with you that Sbarro’s can make a mean road-trip treat, but if you have some time for real pizza make it to great states of New York or Connecticut, where the pizza is made the way it’s supposed to be. No Jersey Shore knockoffs could match. Though now that I think of it, Sbarro is the perfect Jersey pizza after all. Can we get another week of reduced penalties and keeping the offense in manageable down-and-distance situations? That’s really the only question that determines if we win or lose. This team has the talent to be the only team that can beat us.
LONDON – Game-day in the UK.
Let’s get to it …
This looks like it could be a very tough game. The Ravens’ defense arguably has been the best in the league and their offense has been respectable. We need our defense to play like it did in the first half of the last game and our offense needs to be significantly more effective early and throughout the game and we might* keep it close and entertaining. I can’t expect that we will win, but one fer a good game and respectable performance from our Jags.
John: Nah. I can’t do one fer respectability Sunday. This Jaguars team needs to be beyond that against a team such as the Ravens, who – while good – aren’t elite. I don’t know that I “expect” the Jaguars to win, because this team hasn’t yet built a body of work to deserve that expectation. But I do think it’s a game they can win and that they should win if they are the ascending team they believe themselves to be. The Jaguars’ defensive players want and believe themselves to be a unit that can control and win games – and while the Ravens’ offense has run well this season with some balance, it doesn’t have the dominant line of the Titans or game-changing skill position players. Ravens quarterback Joe Flacco is good – very good, in fact – but the Jaguars’ front should be able to pressure Flacco behind a rebuilt offensive line. The Ravens’ defense also is good – perhaps, great – but it has thrived off turnovers. The Browns’ offense moved effectively at times against Baltimore last week, so the Jaguars’ offense should be able to function. If the Jaguars’ offense turns the ball over once or less Sunday – and that’s a significant task against this Ravens team – I say the Jaguars win a third consecutive game in London.
O-Man, in your opinion, will Cam Robinson and Jalen Ramsey play against the Ravens this weekend? Thanks!
John: My gut is yes. That’s particularly the case with Ramsey, who played all snaps against Tennessee last week after not practicing the week leading to the game. I expect he’ll play and play well against Baltimore despite the ankle injury. I have less of a feel for Robinson, who was placed on the injury report Friday with a shoulder injury. But my guess on Robinson is he will play.
With the injury to Allen Robinson, I think we need to immediately relieve Marqise Lee of punt-return duties. Not only would losing Lee to an injury be devastating to our ability to stretch the field, but he also seems to lack that kamikaze mentality needed to be truly dangerous. Why not give Jalen Myrick a shot?
John: I tend to side with your approach – that it’s usually best to keep starting, front-line players off special teams. The reason: you want them fresh – and perhaps more importantly, you want them free from injuries for what presumably are their more important roles on offense or defense. But this Jaguars regime clearly takes special teams very seriously and Head Coach Doug Marrone has been up front since he took the job about his belief that starters can, should and will play special teams. As for why the Jaguars don’t “give Jalen Myrick a shot,” they believe Lee is better enough at returns than Myrick that they put Lee there. And while Lee seems more explosive on kickoffs than punts, don’t overlook his ability as a punt returner. He’s got enough tight-space quickness to surprise you there.
So, I saw a thing that said the Jags are worth about three times what they were worth when KHAAAAAAAN bought the team. It’s almost as if a guy that showed up in the United States with pocket change and is now a multi-billionaire knew what he was doing when he bought the team and said “I am committed to Jags and Jax together” (paraphrased). Maybe, just maybe, given enough time to realistically expect to turn the team around, he’ll see us through to the Super Bowl. Thoughts? (also, ask if he’s hiring; I hear the senior writer is terrible and could use replacing)
John: I think Shad Khan’s vision as a businessman is paralleled by few. I’m not going out on a limb there; his success speaks for itself. I also think he’s the first to tell you the Jaguars have not won enough during his tenure; this frustrates him and has been as disappointing to him as it has been to the fans. The on-field performance is tougher to control than the off-field results. While Khan and the city by mutual desire can make changes to transform EverBank Field and downtown, there are 31 other teams trying to do the same thing the Jaguars are trying to do on the field. The Jaguars clearly haven’t done those things as well as a lot of teams in recent seasons. There are some good signs that’s changing. We’ll see. (And by the way, you’re right about the senior writer; word is he’s trying to ride his good looks and charm as long as he can).
Hey, OZ. I for one don’t have a problem with us playing Bortles this season. I do not think he’s likely to turn into an elite superstar, but I don’t think there were other options that would’ve been significant enough upgrades to warrant a move this past offseason. Sure there’s Kaep, but what is the point, really? Win one or two games more? While that could be enough to contend for the division, that’s because of the weak state of division and would not give the team a realistic chance in the playoffs if they managed to get that far. I’d rather us save our money, go with Blake, be happy we got Leonard Fournette (was skeptical of the pick at the time), and go for the quarterback in the draft. This season is not lost and we set ourselves up for an explosive 2018 and beyond. That being said, I don’t think TC and DM gave up on this season before it began. They just evaluated the situation they were in and figured, “We have the talent to contend. Let’s see if our guy can make the most of it.”
John: Sounds like you’ve got it a lot of it pegged, but let’s be clear: if the Jaguars believed this offseason or now that an available quarterback would be the difference in one or two games – and therefore getting to the playoffs – they would sign that quarterback. The decision to not pursue available quarterbacks isn’t about saving money or any other off-field issue. And trust me: neither Tom Coughlin nor Doug Marrone gave up on the season before it began. Question the moves and decisions they make all you want. They’re in a business where their decisions are questioned all the time. But don’t question that they’re doing what they believe gives them the best chance to win.
If you are worse than Blake Bortles and you can’t take his job from him, you have no upside or expectation of winning a game if called upon, then you are a waste of a roster spot and money. When Chad Henne parts ways with this organization, he will never be on another NFL roster and will never take a meaningful snap. Book it, write it down, take it to the bank. John, I really question your football acumen.
John: I have no idea if Chad Henne will ever take a “meaningful” NFL snap again. It’s possible he won’t, because backup quarterbacks sometimes go years without playing meaningful snaps. But had the Jaguars released Henne this past offseason, he would be on an NFL roster again if he desired to play. As for my football acumen … I don’t know, Dave … All I can do in this forum is share what I’ve learned in two-plus decades being around the NFL and talking to the people who have played, coached and administrated the game. Sometimes, I’m wrong and sometimes they’re wrong. Believe it or don’t. I anticipate sleeping well either way.
Why haven’t we seen a flea flicker yet? They stack the box, Blake Bortles audibles a flea flicker where Leonard Fournette tosses the ball back to Blake, and Blake tosses the ball for a first down. Why can’t we get creative? And a flea flicker is creativity level.
John: Well, $#%&, they sure can’t call it now.
Really excited for the game in London, despite all the negativity already surrounding the Jags after last week. Would just like to point out that I think most of us would’ve taken 1-1 from the first two games, and that 7(!) of our remaining fixtures are actually against teams who are currently winless…. Food for thought.
JACKSONVILLE – Game-day O-Zone. I’m looking forward to this one. I doubt I’m alone.
Let’s get to it …
HOUSTON, Texas – Game-day O-Zone.
This is Year 23 for me covering the NFL. I don’t remember as odd a pregame feeling. What happens here Sunday will matter a great deal within the context of the Jaguars and the NFL.
That context matters enough that we are here.
Yet, that context matters little compared to what’s going on in Florida and Northeast Florida. So while we are here, our minds are there. Stay safe.
Let’s get to it …
Why was Dede Westbrook playing in a meaningless fourth preseason game while injured? Now, he’s on injured reserve. I loved the Tom Coughlin and Doug Marrone hires, but the team hasn’t played a game that matters and it already appears to be dysfunctional.
John: This is unsurprisingly the Pregame Topic of the Weekend and it’s fair to say perspective is needed here. The Jaguars indeed played fourth-round wide receiver Dede Westbrook in Preseason Week 4, then placed him on injured reserve Friday. That means he is out for at least the first half of the regular season. And it’s true that he was dealing with a core muscle injury during preseason. Why was he playing in the preseason finale? Because Marrone believed Westbrook needed to play. That’s because while Westbrook was putting up impressive preseason numbers he also had not yet worked his way into playing with the first unit. There were still things he needed to do – including improving getting off press coverage – to work his way into being among the front-line receivers. That’s difficult to grasp because he led the NFL in preseason receiving, but the difficulty of the grasping doesn’t mean it’s not true. Perhaps in retrospect the Jaguars should have rested Westbrook – and perhaps playing him in Week 4 set him back; that seems unlikely because he played well during that game and it didn’t seem to affect him, but it’s possible. We’re unlikely to know that because it’s not something the team is likely to discuss. Either way, the sense here is while this indeed is the Pregame Topic of the Weekend it’s not something that will hurt the Jaguars early as much as many fear. Westbrook wasn’t going to play extensively over Allen Robinson or Marqise Lee on the outside. He wasn’t playing ahead of Allen Hurns in the slot. Given the fact that his preseason work came with the second and third team – and given the fact that Keelan Cole’s work was coming with the starters, I’m not convinced Westbrook was going to play over Cole early. This is not a knock on Westbrook’s long-term prospects, but I do wonder at the extent of his short-term role if he hadn’t gone on injured reserve.
I really appreciated the response Blake Bortles gave to a press question the other day. They asked something in reference to the hurricane affecting the game. Blake was sharp on his response: “Which one? The one in Texas or in Florida?” I’m sure that’s not a direct quote, but that’s a one fer, fo sho!
John: Yes. One fer Bortles – and one fer everyone in Northeast Florida … and everyone in Florida, for that matter.
Why did we cut Brandon Allen? What will we do now that we are down to just two quarterbacks?
John: The Jaguars waived Allen because they didn’t believe he would help them this season, and because they didn’t believe he would develop into a starter. As for what the Jaguars will do being down to just two quarterbacks, I imagine they’ll start one and have the other be the backup. That’s what I would do.
When the team does not sign a player like Alex Boone, we understand they do not think he can help but we think it lends credence that maybe your readers are smarter than the decision makers. Certainly could not be worse. We sign an offensive lineman who was let go by the Texans and they have as bad an offensive as we do. BE SAFE TRAVEL SAFE.
John: I am reminded every day with nearly every email I receive that readers are smarter than the decision-makers. One of my great regrets is that the great majority of my readers didn’t have the foresight to work in the NFL. We are all lesser for it.
John, disappointing to see Dede Westbrook out of action and a bit surprised by the Earl Watford decision. I look forward to seeing you in London in a couple of weeks. In the meantime, thoughts and prayers are with all our friends in Florida and especially JAX.
John: I was more surprised with Watford being released than with Westbrook going on injured reserve. While Westbrook’s news was surprising, he had been in and out of practice enough that I wondered how many games he would play early in the season. I thought Watford had played well enough in Preseason Week 4 that he could get a look over Patrick Omameh at left guard. As it is, left guard still remains fluid and the Jaguars need someone to make it solid. It’s not ideal. It’s a long way from ideal. We’ll see how it goes.
Zone, I think Sunday’s game is the most important game of the season so far. Don’t you agree?
John: True that.
I, personally, was a huge fan of Calvin Pryor coming out of the draft … he seems to hit so hard and feels like a true, passionate defender. What do you think we picked up from him? I know our defense is already set on paper, but can you see him making any impact plays this year?
John: I think Pryor feels like the kind of pickup that carries risk countered by a lot of upside. He has the skills to start in the NFL, and it’s hard to argue that he doesn’t upgrade the overall safety position. I’m a little jealous, though. I’ve always thought of myself as a “true, passionate defender” – a super hero, if you will … a man to be admired by all. And yet, no one’s ever called me that. Pryor just got here and he gets the moniker. What about me?, I ask. What about me? #Truepassionatedefender #whataboutme?
Given Calvin Pryor’s reputation for being an off-field issue, who among the veterans is most likely the one designated to lay down the law? I’d think it’d be Poz (and as an aside, I am SO glad he’s still with the team; I think we’re really going to need his professionalism in the locker room this year) or will it be Campbell or TSmith (someone I hope will still be around next year)?
John: The sort of law-laying to which you’re referring is best done by a group. Calais Campbell, Paul Posluszny and Telvin Smith absolutely are players who won’t tolerate off-field brush-ups, and my early impression is that players such as Barry Church and A.J. Bouye have little time for such things, either. Off-field distractions are fairly easily handled when brought in at this time of year. Players either fit in/contribute or they are released. There’s little contractual commitment to have it be otherwise.
You, Sexton and Shadrick… “experts” ? Really?
John: Fair.
For the first time in years, I actually feel confident that the Jags will win their opening game. We have considerably more talent on the offensive side and a comparable defense – aside from pass rush. I think the Jags will completely shut down Houston’s offense. All our offense has to do is not get completely shut down.
John: I can’t say I share your giddy optimism, though I agree the Jaguars have a chance Sunday. I’ve said all week that I remember few games when the key pregame matchup was quite so obvious, which is why I snickered (yes, I’ve been known to “snicker”) when I read “aside pass rush.” That’s a little like saying a team has a comparable offense with the Green Bay Packers – aside from Aaron Rodgers. The Texans’ pass rush can overwhelm a game – and the Jaguars’ offensive line struggled enough during the preseason that it’s fair to have serious doubts about its ability to run or pass protect Sunday. If the Jaguars can run effectively enough to keep momentum balanced, and if Bortles can manage the game without field-flipping mistakes, then the Jaguars indeed have a very good chance. That’s what I’ll be watching early.
The crowd in Houston and the fact that Bortles is still our quarterback means we don’t have a snowball’s chance in hell of winning. This season is off the rails already. Great … another Top 3 pick.
John: Speaking of giddy optimism …
Jags will win if: The offense stays in max protection with only two-to-three routes run on all passing plays. Use the run unpredictably, and not always on first downs. The Texans win if: Jags don’t do above.
John: Pretty spot on. I agree that while the Jaguars must stick with the run, they must mix first-half passes on first down. And if they don’t, those early runs better work for three or four yards. It’s really hard to throw successfully into the teeth of the Texans’ pass rush. And if you’re playing behind the chains, you’re going to see teeth.
John, the time is now!!!